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- From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
- Newsgroups: sci.image.processing,comp.sys.mac.scitech,sci.answers,news.answers
- Subject: Macintosh Image Processing Information Sources (FAQ)
- Supersedes: <image-processing/Macintosh_745560008@GZA.COM>
- Followup-To: sci.image.processing
- Date: 1 Sep 1993 00:00:22 -0400
- Organization: NYU Chemistry Dept.
- Lines: 356
- Sender: faqserv@GZA.COM
- Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
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- Expires: 30 Sep 1993 04:00:07 GMT
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- Reply-To: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff)
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- Summary: Using Gopher to find information about Macintosh Image Processing.
- X-Last-Updated: 1993/08/13
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- Archive-name: image-processing/Macintosh
- Sci-image-processing-archive-name: MacImageProc
- Comp-sys-mac-scitech-archive-name: MacImageProc
- Last-modified: 13 Aug 1993
- Version: 1.1.1
-
- Using Gopher to find information about Macintosh Image Processing. Posted
- every two weeks to sci.image.processing, comp.sys.mac.scitech, sci.answers,
- news.answers.
-
-
- Topics:
- sci.image.processing archive has moved to port 71
- Macintosh Image Processing Gopher Sites
- Macintosh Image Processing FTP Sites
- Macintosh Image Processing Packages
- Other useful FAQ files
- About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ
- Latest Software Versions.
- Where to find Mac TurboGopher.
- How to set up Mac TurboGopher.
- How to search the sci.image.processing archive.
- How to search for followups to an article.
- Where can I find NIH Image?
-
- This FAQ is in RFC 1153 format, except that the subject line does not
- contain the word "Digest" and the "Date" and "From" headers are omitted.
- (Is this better or worse than last time?)
-
- Some changes are in progress. The next release will be more complete.
- Some sections are deleted. Old versions of this posting remain available
- on the s.i.p archive. (25 copies per year :-)...
-
- This work is hereby placed in the public domain. (This notice is required
- to avoid copyright under the Berne convention.) You can do anything you
- want with it. But please don't change it without putting your name on it.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: sci.image.processing archive has moved to port 71
-
- Your bookmarks will access a directory page which says the archive
- has moved (but doesn't say where). You will have to make a new
- bookmark, starting with "File/Another Gopher...", fill in the
- server name and change the default port from 70 to 71.
-
- [Other promised changes to this FAQ are still promised...
- Keep those comments coming in :-)]
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- ~Subject: Macintosh Image Processing Gopher Sites
-
- Note: Gopher sites are not necessarily also FTP sites. It is possible for
- Gopher site maintainers to put links to these sites into their gophers.
-
- sci.image.processing archive
- skyking.oce.orst.edu PORT 71 (NONSTANDARD)
- Information From the Costal Imaging Lab/
- Sci.image.processing Newsgroup Archive/
- WAIS Indes to Articles
-
- nih-image mailing list archive
- gopher.soils.umn.edu port 70
- Computer Information/
- General Information/
- Search Nih-Image Mailing List Archives <?>
- Computer Information/
- General Information/
- Selected Electronic Mailing List Archives/
- Nih-image*/
-
-
- comp.sys.mac.scitech archive
- [does anyone know?]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Macintosh Image Processing FTP Sites
-
- As usual, user "anonymous" (spelled exactly as shown).
- Specify your e-mail address as the password.
- For more information, see [pointer to FTP FAQ next time].
-
- zippy.nimh.nih.gov /pub/nih-image
- rtfm.mit.edu /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/news/answers
- ruby.oce.orst.edu /pub/sci.image.processing
- boombox.micro.umn.edu /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher
-
- [more FTP sites next time]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: Macintosh Image Processing Packages
-
- A list is available in the NIH-Image manual.
-
- [More details next time]
-
- Commercial Packages:
- DIP Station
- IP Lab Demo copy is available on zippy.
-
- Public Domain:
- nih-image
- ncsa-image
- pbmplus (requires MPW. I have a copy if no one else does).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP Other useful FAQ files
-
- [more detail next time]
- The Archive-name header specifies the file name on the rtfm.mit.edu
- archive in the /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/news/answers subdirectory.
-
- sci.image.processing
- From: stanley@skyking.oce.orst.edu (John Stanley)
- Subject: Sci.image.processing FAQ (Huzzah!)
- Archive-name: <to be assigned> (Search s.i.p archive for "FAQ")
-
- I haven't looked at these recently, but check these newsgroups or
- look on the rtfm archive for FAQ files. Look in the directories
- for the group, e.g. /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/graphics.
-
- comp.graphics
- comp.soft-sys.khoros
- alt.pixutils
- [more next time]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ
-
- This is the first cut at a new streamlined FAQ that covers more than
- one site. More improvements will follow. Keep those suggestions
- coming in :-).
-
- Many thanks to John Stanley <stanley@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU> for setting up an
- archive of sci.image.processing. Nearly all posts to s.i.p are archived
- there and the full text can be searched rapidly using any Gopher client or
- WWW client. This is the preferred method, and the ONLY method described
- here. It should be possible to make a mirror or two of the archive on
- other continents (hint). This ought to give faster response for people
- there, although Gopher gives no feedback about where it is going for any
- particular piece of information
-
- To find out more about Gopher, ask in comp.infosystems.gopher or read
- "Gopher (comp.infosystems.gopher) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)" which
- is posted every two weeks to comp.infosystems.gopher, or is available via
- anonymous FTP:
-
- rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq
-
- Those without FTP access should send e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
- with "send usenet/news.answers/finding-sources" in the body to find out
- how to do FTP by e-mail. Or just "send usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq".
-
- To obtain the latest copy of THIS document,
- "send usenet/news.answers/image-processing/Macintosh".
-
- [Pointers to other relevant FAQ files will be added here real soon now.]
-
- If you see this text as a separte message followed by several others from
- me, you must be running a newsreader like NN which has an option to split
- digests and present them as if each article were posted separately.
-
- Mail suggestions or comments to huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff).
- Preferably, mail a modified copy of the whole file to reflect the changes
- you would like to see. I reserve the right to ignore impolite requests.
-
- I will not be maintaining any FAQ files for PC or Unix. Anyone else
- who would like to do so is encouraged. It isn't (that) hard.
-
- Also, I plan to include a list of useful search terms, i.e. specific terms
- that successfully bring up the desired answers, rather than quoting the
- answers themselves. This should also make obsolete copies of this FAQ a
- little less obsolete. Please send me successful search terms, especially
- if they are not entirely obvious.
-
- I am also looking at a Mac WWW client, and someday will get information
- added.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP Latest Software versions.
-
- The Gopher team writes:
- >We recommend you use version 1.0.6b5 of TurboGopher
- >instead of version 1.0.5.
-
- The latest NIH Image to 1.50b112. A final 1.50 with source should
- be out in early August. It has many improvements including text
- editing windows, load macros from text window, Photoshop plugins, etc.
-
- The latest IP Lab demo is 2.3.0h, on zippy.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP Where to find Mac TurboGopher
-
- Short answer: boombox.micro.umn.edu (134.84.132.2)
- in directory /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher file TurboGopher.hqx
-
- Or if you already have an older copy, use the TurboGopher Distribution
- bookmark. As usual with Gopher, there is no indication about where on
- the internet it is going for the information, and it does not try to
- tell you. This could be fixed: the "TurboGopher Distribution" window
- ought to contain pointers to gopher servers which contain nearby copies...
-
- An "archie" search for Macintosh-TurboGopher found 25 copies at anonymous
- FTP sites around the world.
-
- Telnet to an archie server:
- archie.ans.net
- archie.unl.edu 129.93.1.14
- archie.sura.net 128.167.254.179
- archie.rutgers.edu 128.6.18.15
- archie.au 139.130.4.6
- archie.funet.fi 128.214.6.100
- archie.ncu.edu.tw 140.115.19.24
- archie.doc.ic.ac.uk 146.169.11.3
- archie.sogang.ac.kr 163.239.1.11
-
- Login as user "archie", and enter "prog Macintosh-TurboGopher". Conserve
- bandwidth, FTP from a nearby site.
-
- As usual, archie is not a perfect solution, since archivists have a
- tendency to change file names and since the file you are looking for
- changes with the version. This search string has been tested on
- archie.ans.net and it found 25 sites. Other reasonable searchs are
- TurboGopher.sit.hqx and TurboGopher.hqx, but many of the sites use file
- names like turbogopher1.05.sit.hqx. Is there a better way?
-
- If you cannot telnet or if you use archie a lot, client software is
- available on ftp.ans.net:/pub/archie/clients; documentation in
- /pub/archie/doc. Maybe it works better than the telnet version?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP How to set up Mac TurboGopher
-
- (1) Unbinhex and unstuff it. Fetch will unbinhex it automatically while
- obtaining it from the FTP site. You need one of the Stuffit programs to
- uncompress TurboGopher. Look in comp.sys.mac.* for more information. Once
- you have TurboGopher, you can use it to get the lastest version.
-
- (2) Of course, you need MacTCP properly installed in your system folder,
- and a TCP connection to the Internet. Ask you local network manager for
- help.
-
- (3) Double click on TurboGopher. Choose "File/Another Gopher" and type
- skyking.oce.orst.edu into the dialog box, and change the default port
- from 70 to 71.
-
- A window titled "skyking.oce.orst.edu" will appear. Double click on
- "Information From the Costal Imaging Lab" and another window will open.
- There you will find "Sci.image.processing Newsgroup Archive". Select the
- line and choose "Gopher/Set Bookmark" to create a bookmark to the archive.
- Then, you can quit from TurboGopher, restart it, and the archive will
- appear as an item in your "Bookmarks" window.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP How to search the sci.image.processing archive using TurboGopher
-
- The first item in the archive window is "WAIS Indes to Articles". Further
- down is a folder "Raw Articles." Ignore the folder and use the index.
- Double click on the question mark icon, and a dialog box appears: "Find
- documents containing these words:". Enter FAQ and a window titled FAQ will
- appear. There you can see the complete history of the discussions on when
- and if a FAQ posting should appear in sci.image.processing, and also any
- other article which happens to contain the word "FAQ".
-
- I suppose that every time this FAQ gets reposted, it is going to be
- reentered in the archive. Maybe there is a way to prevent that.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP How to search for followups to an article
-
- You can copy the "article-ID" header string and paste it into the search
- box. This frequently produces more articles than desired, since each
- substring delimited by periods etc. is treated as a separate word.
-
- One useful solution to this would be for the original poster to put some
- unique single word string in the subject line. Or someday, the index
- software could be modified to treat article-ID strings as single words.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- ~Subject: MacIP Where can I find NIH Image?
-
- NIH Image is a public domain image processing package for the Macintosh.
-
- The home site for NIH Image is zippy.nimh.nih.gov in directory /pub/nih-image.
- Copies exist in many places. Wayne has changed his file names to include
- nih-image rather than just image, so that archie should be able to find
- copies, provided that other archivists preserve the name.
-
- Clearly, it doesn't work yet:
-
- archie> prog nih-image
- # matches / % database searched: 3 /100%
-
- archie> set search sub
- archie> prog nih-image
- # matches / % database searched: 88 / 72%
- # matches / % database searched: 134 / 96%
- # matches / % database searched: 150 /100%
-
- Using "set search sub" makes the search take a long time, and produces
- a lot of redundant output. Here are the results of that search, after
- running MPW "search Host | sort -unique". Note that zippy.nimh.nih.gov
- is not there. Oh well.
-
- Host akiu.gw.tohoku.ac.jp (130.34.8.9)
- Host bongo.cc.utexas.edu (128.83.186.13)
- Host ftp.uu.net (192.48.96.9)
- Host ipc1.rvs.uni-hannover.de (130.75.5.71)
- Host isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (130.54.20.1)
- Host iskut.ucs.ubc.ca (137.82.27.61)
- Host knot.queensu.ca (130.15.126.54)
- Host lth.se (130.235.20.3)
- Host metten.fenk.wau.nl (137.224.129.4)
- Host nctuccca.edu.tw (140.111.3.21)
- Host netserv.cnr.it (192.12.192.6)
- Host nic.switch.ch (130.59.1.40)
- Host pinus.slu.se (130.238.98.11)
- Host plaza.aarnet.edu.au (139.130.4.6)
- Host rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de (134.95.100.208)
- Host sics.se (192.16.123.90)
- Host src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.2.1)
- Host swdsrv.edvz.univie.ac.at (131.130.1.4)
- Host uceng.uc.edu (129.137.33.1)
- Host uhunix2.uhcc.hawaii.edu (128.171.44.7)
- Host wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4)
-
- The latest released version is 1.49, and 1.50 is due for release in early
- August.
-
- Subscribing to the new NIH Image mailing list is good way to get in contact
- with other Image users and to get questions answered. It was set up by a
- group in the Soil Science Department at the University of Minnesota. To
- subscribe, send a message containing the line "subscribe nih-image <your
- name>" to listserv@soils.umn.edu. ("Your name" is your actual name,
- NOT your e-mail address. The e-mail address comes from the headers).
-
- The NIH Image manual includes a list of Mac Image processing packages.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Macintosh Image Processing Information Sources (FAQ)
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